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Post by JuniorIII on Jan 8, 2007 8:49:31 GMT -8
As far as the second part of Joe's question, yes, I know we did receive the Bridgestone money. I'm not sure as to how much it was, but I do believe it is based on the entries that were at our track, not as to how many of our racers attended. Something else to remember, the money, whether it's from Burris or Bridgestone, goes back into our Track. Paving projects, Buildings, all of that. We are the LEAST expensive place to race in the Northwest, maybe even the whole West Coast. membership fees $125.00 for a family, practice at $10.00, $30.00 to race - All this is for our Members. If we bring in the tires that are going to make it easier for our MEMBERS to race, then that's what is going to grow our sport locally, and maybe eventually will grow the sport regionally.
Thanks, Bill Ross
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Post by new tire guy on Jan 8, 2007 13:17:53 GMT -8
In the past most club racers took the throw offs from the regionals so they could keep the tire bill down season. Now with the Burris series they can't even use the free throw offs to race. The tire money from bridgestone this last year was split as so 10% to gold cup fund banquet. 45% to tracks hosting event 45% to club participation I believe the regional money for TCKC went into the general pool as the TCKC did not host the regional event but was hosted by a private party instead.
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Post by joe Karter on Jan 8, 2007 14:20:58 GMT -8
So this just seems al little fishie to me. Is Tri Cities not interested in IKF anymore so they are trying to stear racers away?
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Post by JuniorIII on Jan 8, 2007 14:29:49 GMT -8
I understand that, but very few of our members, if any, use cast offs, maybe it's different in Portland. We have a guy that comes around after the Regional Races and picks up the old tires for his yard karts. We are working on the final details for this Series that will put a better perspective on this as to how we are going to launch this program. We are only in this to help grow OUR local program and there may be some kinks in the beginning, but as a whole it will be a huge benefit to OUR Club. Also, if Club participation is based on number of entries, then we would be at the bottom of the Bridgestone money tree, because our people are not Regional Racers. Oh, by the way, it would be nice if people actually used their names in this forum instead of hiding behind their aliases! Our Club is like a family, and family members use their own names when they speak up. This forum is for announcing the details of a new and promising venture for OUR Club. Although we honor any views from outsiders on this issue, we are truly looking at what our own members thoughts are. If you want to speak your mind, please do so, but also let us know who you are in doing so.
Bill Ross
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Post by JuniorIII on Jan 8, 2007 14:45:47 GMT -8
Joe - We are still very interested in IKF - We just have more important matters like the growth of our Club. The Burris Super Series has nothing to do with IKF. As far as stealing other Club's members, we would love to have people travel to our track and we are not bashful in saying so. We have quite a few that come from all over the Northwest for our events. But that's their decision.
Bill Ross
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Post by Art Carpenter on Jan 8, 2007 15:06:23 GMT -8
Wow, so much drama over what was the norm in the late 80's and early 90's when Karting was at it's all time peak in the Northwest. For those of you who weren't around during that time it was common to see different tires used in the Gold Cup/Regional Series over each Club's tires. In the early 90"s we (TCKC) ran the rock hard Bridgestone YBN that you could honestly run a full season on while the tire choice for the Gold Cup/Regional program was the Dunlop SL. At that time participation was at its height in the Northwest and we (TCKC) had a much larger group traveling with a much smaller Club. To be honest I don't think any of the other Series will see a decline in participation from our Club because, for most, if your going to travel to a race your going to put on fresh rubber anyway. It also must be understood that the Tri-City Kart Club's Board of Directors has the task of making decisions and in this case we felt that it was most important to meet the needs of 90% who don't travel over the 10% who do. Maybe those of you from other Club's posting on this subject should speak to Mr. Burris, your minds may change very quickly.
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Post by Derek on Jan 8, 2007 17:45:03 GMT -8
I remember when i was starrting out that the dunops and bridgestones where changing... could you guys do the same thing for this year... make it ok to run Dunops and Bridgestones for a whole years together so everybody has time instead of changing over without any say... I mean the people back then weren't stupid and i think we should take their idea... i mean i don't care about changing the tires but dang... you have to change to a tire that only past board members or current who tested on them have pratice...
I say we should allow Bridgestone and Burris for the 2007 season... Makes total sense... (people have tires from last year that they have to use up and maybe if their running 4-cycle that may take a year to wear down the tyres (liuke me, i run Tag and i have bout 4 sets and each of them last 2 races...).)
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Post by Leonard Maine on Jan 8, 2007 18:17:56 GMT -8
I had a long talk with Mr. Ross today about this hole issue and to be completely honest I was against it at first but after it was explained to me I do think it will be the best for the club . So New Tire guy all I can tell you is do like me and buck up for 4 sets of tires and be happy you have a place to race .
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Post by Corey on Jan 8, 2007 19:15:27 GMT -8
OK Everyone here is the deal. First off thanks Leonard and the rest of you who used your REAL name.
Now this is going to be a Great deal for OUR club and CLUB Members. As a Payed 2007 Tri City Kart Club Member you will receive one set of Burris B44A tires per DRIVER at a one time cost of $120.00 per set delivered here. That is for ANY size ie 4.5 x 4.5, 4.5 x 6.0, 4.5 x 7.1 . We as a Club will receive Year end and Race Day awards like never before, and Year end money from Burris for improvements to OUR already great facility. The Burris family is really into making racing affordable and fun for everyone and want to be a great part of our program for the long term.
To answer Derek's Question.... We will be able to run YHC's for the FIRST race of the year only. With a one time cost of $120.00 it seems pretty inexpensive to me along with the lower everyday price and the greater longevity. The tire is more consistent through a run and through the life of the tire. Also Derek I have not been the only one testing the tires. Granted they were on my kart but had multiple drivers. If you get 2 races out of the yhc you will get more out of the Burris. It has been proven on several other tracks, and in many different classes. See everyone at the Rules meeting and Track opening party
Lets all get ready for a great year of fun racing.
Corey Poynor
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Post by Derek on Jan 8, 2007 19:40:05 GMT -8
Do you think we could make the change after the IKF events? because most of the IKF drivers will come down and run our club...
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Post by robbie calhoun on Jan 8, 2007 19:50:36 GMT -8
hi we are thinking of coming down for the first club race which is the 25th of march right? which is a Sunday and we wanted to practice on that Saturday also is the track open? and is it alright to use the bridgestones just for that race?
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Post by Corey on Jan 8, 2007 20:01:55 GMT -8
Robbie, Derek and whoever else would like to practice/race The track is open for practice starting March 3 and 4. You can run what ever tire you would like. If you are a Club Member you have to run the Burris B44A to receive any points after the first race.
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Post by robbie calhoun on Jan 8, 2007 20:13:08 GMT -8
ok we just want to come up the day before your first club race and your first club race. we dont want points just practice for the regoinal. should we call first to get in or will the gates be unlocked?
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Post by Corey on Jan 8, 2007 20:25:43 GMT -8
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Post by Tristan on Jan 10, 2007 15:02:51 GMT -8
I am not apart of this club but have run here quiet a few years in the Gold cup's and Regional events and even a national. You guys must do what is best for your club. As for cast offs I have even sold some old tires to your club members. Actually it was the only place in the Gold Cup I could get anyone to buy a Tire.
I as a club racer in portland put new tires on for the Gold Cups then put them down to club tires. And rotate them through the year.
But I will be interested in the data that these tires produce Its always interesting to see what a different tire can promise and then produce. I have read into the tires a little of what NKN did in an issue about 3 months ago and they seemed to like them but found they needed way diffferent pressures and found the kart reguired a little chassis tuning to get the car to turn. I would be interested to see a back to back test of 60 laps and not see how much tire is left but what the fall off rate of the tires are? Maybe one of your club members that run Gold Cup and Club could do a test like that and see. I am an engineering student and like to see the physics and the data myself. See the charted numbers with a consistant driver there. I would think 6 sessions of 10 laps each letting them cool down completly to see what cycles through better. As a cheap scate that would be the better bargin, Whinch one can take more cycles?
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