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Post by NorthWest Kart Dates on Sept 28, 2009 1:17:07 GMT -8
Hey, how many ppl wants to Yamaha Kt 100 Pipe next year? I will have around four karts running next year and they will be with can... no pipe... I've heard stories about the pipe and its not good... i know everybody can get a 4 hole can EASY... when the pipe has to be ordered and cant even get it from Tsracing or Coment Racing online... I cant find ANYBody with a online store that has this pipe... I am not going to be running it and ill have a field of 4 karts next year and it's less wear and tear and it's easier to tune so you blow you're motor like Austin 4 times... Chances are good that it's ALL because of this pipe too... so what does everybody say? less wear and tear, easier to tune, cheaper, and it may get some ppl into the class...
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Post by brett22bowen on Sept 28, 2009 11:56:42 GMT -8
The SSQ pipe really isn't that bad...I ran it a lot and never had any problems with it... It made sense to go to that pipe to combine the full pipe and can class back in the day to get killer kart counts... If anything I'd like to see it go back to the full pipe, lots faster, easy to tune, and doesnt sound like a swarm of bee's.... And I dont think we can attribute Austin's engine problems to the pipe....Thats the biggest class at TCKC...Theyre doin something right...
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Post by socalracer on Sept 28, 2009 13:20:56 GMT -8
Well i think maybe austin should tell us why his motors blew up. I dont recall him saying it was the pipe. Thats what my guess is though, running too lean too long.
Personally I would rather run the can. If we run the pipe I would like to run a normal pipe atleast.
Anybody in favor of changing tires to bridgestone? I wish we could run YHC bridgestone, i have heard weird things about the new YKC that replaced YHC, maybe we should even switch to YDS which is a hard compound tire which is close on the durometer to the burris tires.
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Post by mooch on Sept 28, 2009 14:49:10 GMT -8
I'm with Brett on this one. I think it should go to a full pipe rather then the in-between pipe/can. More area for tuning and faster which in return would make it a lot more fun right?
All though I have only run the YHC's once, I like them. They seemed to hold fairly good even though there used. I'll be interested to hear which way it goes!
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Post by brett22bowen on Sept 28, 2009 14:56:19 GMT -8
Good luck finding YHC's!
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Post by NorthWest Kart Dates on Sept 28, 2009 15:12:59 GMT -8
Well, You guys are right, we should run the pipe, Tocoma runs it and that have a good count... I dont care if it's a normal pipe or 4 hole can, but i am NOT going to put that SSQ pipe on my karts... which is 4 karts... I am wondering if anybody would like to run Yamaha Heavy in Gold cup next year... and i would rather run YHC YKC or whatever tire replaced YHC's... There are more normal pipe than that SSQ pipe...
So can we go YHC/YKC (whatever the tire is that replaced it)
Anyone up to run Yamaha Heavy in GC
and who all would rather go Normal pipe...
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Post by kartsportnw on Sept 28, 2009 16:00:13 GMT -8
The pipes are available available through us here at Kart Sport Northwest and I believe Kart-O-Rama. Derek, I can't recall having a call from you in regards to see if we had this pipe in stock. Why not shop those who have carried your racing program in the past?  This pipe was originally set to replace the can for all of IKF. RLV worked with Mike Collins at Collins Racing Engines for the fine tuning of this pipe. The pipe proved to be faster on the stop watch, produced almost 2 HP over the 4 hole can, looked like a race pipe not a bait can and was and continues to be much more pleasant to hear on the race circuit. Using a scare tactic like saying these pipes are going to make your engine a time bomb is just wrong! There are right ways to go about getting changes made with out resorting to that. There are several fast karts in this class with new drivers that have little to no tuning experience and they have not lost engines and they DO run up front. This class was made as a very good happy medium for Sr Yamaha as many thought the can was to boring and others found the open pipe to fast. Once again numbers prove the success of a class, just take a look at the class as it is at this moment and the draw is great. Remember people, classes are created for the good of many, not the affordabiltiy or like of just a few. When the perfect Karting class is created there will be only one class. Until then be flexible, play by the rules and go fast.  |
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Post by NorthWest Kart Dates on Sept 28, 2009 16:10:58 GMT -8
Well cna u race this pipe in GC?
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Post by brett22bowen on Sept 28, 2009 16:24:34 GMT -8
Wait...HOW many karts are you gonna field next year??
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Post by kartsportnw on Sept 28, 2009 16:31:09 GMT -8
At this time there are no Yamaha clasess in the Gold Cup or IKF Region 6 series. The turnout to test the waters at McMinnville was very poor so I don't know where thoughts are on considering to add a Yamaha class in 2010 to the Series. As you know the classes must maintain an average number of karts per race to be kept on the schedule. It would be great to see the return of the Yamaha's to the Gold Cup as its great racing at an affordable price.
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Post by NorthWest Kart Dates on Sept 28, 2009 20:41:26 GMT -8
I am hoping to field around 4... and who would be interested on running Goldcup in ure Yamaha... I think whatever the GC is we should use that pipe/can or whatever... and tires so the club memebers can still race club and not only GC.
Who is interested?
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Post by NorthWest Kart Dates on Sept 29, 2009 1:17:26 GMT -8
Well, ive talked to a few ppl in Portland that would love to come over and run but they only have a can... and at pacs last weekend they said their was 5 karts and they made their own room and had the track for them
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Post by socalracer on Sept 29, 2009 7:36:12 GMT -8
I will run gold cup if yamaha is there regardless of the pipe or tires. I think we should be running the same thing as GC if that happens.
I know YHC are nearly impossible to find anymore, so either YKC or YDS are our best options on the bridgestone side.
Maybe we should use Formula Y pipe, or just leave it open drive open pipe.
Regarding the pipe we use. I talked to Mike Collins for atleast an hour about this SSQ pipe. He reaffirmed my thinking that this pipe is a bad pipe. He said RLV originally designed it for juniors. The tuning on it is terrible and we really shouldn't use it. Considering no class in the country I have heard of runs this pipe, shows we shouldnt be running it. Regardless of which pipe we go to, we should not use this one, thats my feeling. Check the top 5 motors for Nationals this year in yamaha classes, ask those motor builders if they know about this SSQ pipe, I bet all of them say no.
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Post by brett22bowen on Sept 29, 2009 11:31:25 GMT -8
So would you rather run the SSQ with 15 other karts, or the Y-pipe or can with 4 other karts? The Sr. Supersportsman class has been a work in progress for MANY years... If Everyone was having problems with it it'd be one thing, but most haven't had any troubles with it.. You just have to know how to tune and watch head temp...
The class is booming, if it aint broke dont fix it...just tune it!
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Post by mooch on Sept 29, 2009 12:41:35 GMT -8
I would personally want to run a full pipe along with the Bridgestone YKC (from what I have read). If the Yamaha class was to be put on the Gold Cup schedule, I know I would make it to a few races.
To me, racing with more people is a lot more fun then racing with a few people going fast.
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This pipe was originally set to replace the can for all of IKF. RLV worked with Mike Collins at Collins Racing Engines for the fine tuning of this pipe. The pipe proved to be faster on the stop watch, produced almost 2 HP over the 4 hole can, looked like a race pipe not a bait can and was and continues to be much more pleasant to hear on the race circuit. Using a scare tactic like saying these pipes are going to make your engine a time bomb is just wrong! There are right ways to go about getting changes made with out resorting to that. There are several fast karts in this class with new drivers that have little to no tuning experience and they have not lost engines and they DO run up front. This class was made as a very good happy medium for Sr Yamaha as many thought the can was to boring and others found the open pipe to fast. Once again numbers prove the success of a class, just take a look at the class as it is at this moment and the draw is great. Remember people, classes are created for the good of many, not the affordabiltiy or like of just a few. When the perfect Karting class is created there will be only one class. Until then be flexible, play by the rules and go fast. 